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No milk at all

Postby MiracleBaby » Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:24 pm

I have a 3 weeks old baby and had an emergency c section. My baby came 2.5 weeks early. Waters broke and I was induced as there was no pain or contractions. But the cervix didn't dilate so they had to do a c section. I have had a past history of hypothyroidism and have been on thyroxine for it. Also I am a thalaseemia Minor and my iron stores havent been the best. When I was in the surgey I lost a lot of blood and my blood pressure dropped due to which I threw up right before the surgery. Once my baby was out he was given to me for 5 mins of touch. He was wrapped up and I could use only my hands to touch him while I was being sticthed up. I was taken to the recovery after that where my blood pressure was monitored for an hour and my husband had the baby in the nursery. I came to the ward afterwards and my baby was brought to me in the bassinet. I was totally drugged up and don't remember much of that day. My baby was taken to the nursery that night so that I could sleep. Next day after taking a shower and settling in I tried to extract colustrum and nothing came out. I had heavy and sore breasts. Tried to latch my baby and he did latch and suck but am
Not sure if he got anything. From there on every time I latched him he got frustrated and I gave in to formula on advise from nurses and midwives. I took fenugreek tablets. medication. Tried pumping. Nothing came out. Went to see the maternal nurse and she said since I have thyroid issues it's a give away that I won't have any milk. I called my ob and she suggested thyroid has nothing to do with breastmilk. 3 weeks in my baby is on formula and is gaining weight. I give him bottled formula every time and we try to bond then. He has enough wet nappies and poos. And is gaining weight. My breasts feel normal. They r not sore or heavy. And also to mention I didn't have any milk leak during my pregnancy. I had a very healthy and normal pregnancy. What I wish to know is can this be possible that I have no milk at all and should just accept it and move on and keep doing the things I can for my little one or is there something I can still try and see if milk comes in. I have been very disappointed that such a normal bodily womanly function that I thought was default isn't happening for me. What shall I do?
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Re: No milk at all

Postby Parla. » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:18 pm

Welcome and congratulations on your new baby!

Breastfeeding is natural but many women still find there are a lot of difficulties. It would be very unusual to have no milk at all. Several of the things you have mentioned are known to make it harder to establish breastfeeding, such as blood loss, being separated from baby, c section. Even the stress and surprise when things don't go as we expected. These things happen to many of us and most of the time can be overcome with the right support and information.

Expressing/pumping is very much a learned skill and is a poor way of seeing how much milk you have. It's really common in times of stress for women to find either nothing comes out, or just a few mls. Usually a breastfeeding baby can still get milk out, but pumping is just that bit harder.

Heavy and sore breasts are generally a sign that milk is being made. Not everyone leaks during pregnancy, but most women see some changes in their breasts. This is the hormones working on the milk making tissue getting everything ready.

If you are happy and baby is doing well on formula, you could continue with this if you like. If you would like to try breastfeeding again, you could offer your little one the breast and see what he does. Babies have instincts to breastfeed for the first few months so it may be that he knows just what to do. Or have you already tried this?

I'm wondering what other sources of support you have? Do you know other breastfeeding mums? Some midwives and nurses have more training in breastfeeding that others, so if you are not sure about what you've been told so far sometimes it's worth seeing another nurse until you find someone who 'clicks' with you. There are also trained lactation consultants who specialise in breastfeeding - http://www.lcanz.org/find-a-consultant.htm

There is also the Australian Breastfeeding Association helpline (number is below) if you'd like to talk to a breastfeeding counsellor (we are all mums too) about everything that has happened and some options from here. We also have local support groups for mums if you would like to get some support in-person.

Please let us know how you go!
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Re: No milk at all

Postby MiracleBaby » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:15 pm

Thanks for your response. Very reassuring. I have a query. Since my Lo is 1 month and hasn't been bf at all. Is it possible that if I try more and more pumping. Skin go skin etx I can still have milk? Even after 1 month of delivering my baby?
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Re: No milk at all

Postby MamaMagoO? » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:26 pm

Hi MiracleBaby. Congratulations on the birth of your baby and welcome to the forum. Sounds like you got off to a really rough start. I hope that things have started to settle down a bit for you and you are enjoying your time with your baby.

To answer your question, yes, it is possible that you still have some milk although it is not likely to be enough- at this stage- to fully feed your baby. Some mums are successfully able to relactate, ie bring in milk down the track a little way when breastfeeding hasn't worked out or when they have stopped earlier than they had wanted to. The most important factor to success if having a baby who is willing to attach to the breast. Expressing can also help but babies are much more efficient at removing milk from the breast so will have a better chance. Skin-on-skin time as you mentioned would also help. Allowing your baby to follow his instincts and attach to your breast if he wants to while having skin-on-skin time would probably be a good way to start. Its not the easiest thing in the world to do though so probably best to go into it knowing that you might not ever get to the point where you can fully breastfeed this baby. But remembering that every little be of breastmilk he gets is doing him good. I'd highly recommend getting support if this is something you want to do, you can call the breastfeeding helpline or get to know your local ABA counsellors at a group meeting or for professional one-on-one support you could find lactation consultant.

There is a lot of good information in relatation here:

https://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/bfinfo ... astfeeding

Hope that helps and let us know how you go.
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Re: No milk at all

Postby Bailey's Mum » Fri May 29, 2015 7:44 am

I have chronic pituitary hypothyroid disease (27 years since diagnosis) and have just been diagnosed with chronic thyroiditis, after complaining for over 10 years that I do not feel my thyroid levels are adequate, despite blood tests in the normal range.

I have had 4 babies. My first died, and my milk came in on the day of his funeral - it was running down my chest in the bath that night. However, my milk never "came in" for any of the other 3, even though I did everything by the book. I DID breastfeed, but never exclusively. My first LC suggested my supply was compromised by my thyroid and/or pituitary issues (prolactin is made right beside where TSH is made). I tried every trick under the sun, but had to come to terms with the fact that my best just had to be good enough, and the baby still had to be fed. My choice was to use a SNS to comp feed at the breast.

My journey is all over the forum - you can search my posts, somehow - but I'm happy to support you privately, as well. I trained as a counsellor for this exact reason.
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