Article on milk sharing

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Article on milk sharing

Post by Karleen » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:35 pm

By me- please engage in the conversation by posting your opinion at the end. https://theconversation.edu.au/mothers- ... ring-11934
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Post by Penguin » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:07 pm

Hi Karleen, I don't really want to sign up but I like the article.

I'm interested about the bit about hygiene. I certainly didn't wash my hands as a rule when pumping at home (for DD). How risky is that? Is it something that I should have been doing? n=1 but DD never had gastro (aside from the norovirus that wiped out everyone at daycare.)

Are the hygiene risks of donor milk more than the hygiene risks of EBM for one's own child?
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Post by Karleen » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:48 pm

Hi Penguin,
We don't have an answer to your question. In my actual paper (as in the one that will be in a scientific journal) I talk about this a bit- What we do know- it's recommended that hands be washed before expressing; there is a big difference in bacterial contamination levels of EBM between mothers; most bacteria is normal skin flora and harmless; contaminated feeding equipment has caused serious illness in prem babies; there's not a general link between bacterial contamination levels and infection in prem babies. What this all means is anyones guess but it's pretty safe to say that hand washing is not a bad thing to do before doing any food prep! Clear as mud?
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Post by fellare » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:23 pm

wouldn't it be that your own baby is used to your bacteria and other things living on you, but when you donate it to someone else, that baby might not have immunity to whatever you are carrying and it might make them sick?

I don't know, I always washed everything before expressing for donating. It had to be sterilised for the hospital, but the lady said that was government not being able to organise themselves, rather than a need for it.
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Post by Penguin » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:36 pm

Karleen wrote:Hi Penguin,
We don't have an answer to your question. In my actual paper (as in the one that will be in a scientific journal) I talk about this a bit- What we do know- it's recommended that hands be washed before expressing; there is a big difference in bacterial contamination levels of EBM between mothers; most bacteria is normal skin flora and harmless; contaminated feeding equipment has caused serious illness in prem babies; there's not a general link between bacterial contamination levels and infection in prem babies. What this all means is anyones guess but it's pretty safe to say that hand washing is not a bad thing to do before doing any food prep! Clear as mud?
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To add an extra complication in, I scalded my EBM because of lipase, so perhaps that reduces the risk further? Even clearer mud. Can't wait for your full article -any idea when it will be published?
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Post by Gwen's Mum » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:57 pm

Am off to log in and share my thoughts. Thanks Karleen! :)

ETA: Well, I did attempt to share my thoughts, but then the webpage ate them. :roll: Will try again tomorrow - hope I can articulate the same thing again! :wink:
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Post by Monicat » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:00 pm

Love the article Karleen :)
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Post by pseudo » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:46 pm

I'm always very careful to thoroughly wash my hands for my donor recipient and, once I wash them, I touch nothing aside from the pump and the containers that I express into and I'm very careful not to touch the inside of the containers. I'm a big hand washer anyway but it's more along the lines of what I might pick up on my hands and then transfer to the pump as I'm assembling it, which might then get into the milk. I probably wouldn't be this pedantic if I were expressing for my own baby but I don't want to take any chances, particularly as my recipient baby has health problems.
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Post by katw » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:01 am

I was going to comment but was scared off by the qualifications of other commenters :lol:
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Post by Karleen » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:48 am

Don't be scared. The purpose of the publication is to bring research to the general public. On this particular subject I think that the opinions of women who have decided to participate or not participate in milk sharing are really pertinent and useful.
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Post by Elizabby » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:42 pm

I'm not prepared to go through the hassle to sign up to something that is going to publish my email and name, sorry.

But it was an interesting article - and an even more interesting comment thread below!

I've milk shared as a donor, and I'm just sad it was not an option I was aware of 5 years ago when my prem was in the Special Care Nursery. :( Unlike the commenter on your thread, I do not believe the benefits of breast milk CAN be overstated.
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Post by Karleen » Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:11 pm

Do I appear reasonable and rational Elizabby? I've been a bit shocked by the specialist's seeming inability to properly read the paper that she provided s evidence for her views.
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